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Post by The Invisible Man on Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:15 pm

Boy oh boy it sure made me laugh when I read what Richard Berg said at the meeting about the fight for forest economy at the IWA union hall.

THIS NEWS STORY says "Audience members were not all in agreement that electing NDP governments at the provincial and federal levels would solve the crisis in the forest industry. One worker who now (reluctantly) loads logs onto ships blasted the speakers, which included AlberniPacific Rim MLA Scott Fraser, for exploiting social issues for political points, while Richard Berg politely pointed out that it was an NDP government that removed the appurtenancy clause for TimberWest, linking harvesting and processing within one tree farm license, allowing them to shut down their Youbou sawmill and launching the expansion of log exports."

Richard Berg has a great memory and is so good at pointing out little bits of important history that so many people forget. I really like the article.
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Post by Possum on Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:46 pm

See here we agree. The NDs are great at blaming the Liberals for the blunder made by the NDs when they suddenly realized and figured out that Skeena needed logs; logs that they no longer had. Clause 7 had to go so that the NDs could assign logs to Skeena that were outside their jurisdiction and suddenly the rules of the forests changed.

That being said the Liberals have used the new legislation to allow a great portion of the logs to move. Now the real kicker and points maker for the USWA and our local political hack is the exporting of Hemlock logs.

Does anyone know of a mill that uses Hemlock for dimensional lumber; I don't either but the hack still tries to make political points.

Maybe if the asshole did his job he may get a little respect from members of the other parties. Lets face it this moron will never be as well liked a Gerard Janssen was liked.

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Post by The Invisible Man on Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:10 pm

Isn't it obvious that this is a federal matter? Forget about log exports and look for other ways to help the forest economy. For example, what about all of those logs left on the ground after the logging company has finished creaming the forest. Those logs should be accessible for secondary manufacturing.

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Post by booboo on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:17 pm

hmmmm...sure Log Export from private lands is a Federal matter...I found that out a few years back when I was on CBC Radio arguing with the Prez of the Private Landowners Association of Canada about Log Export....It is a huge matter and cannot be forgotten about...the waste that is left behind to salvage is very minor in comparison to the current volume being exported..It is the biggest thing screwing the Forest Economy....at the accelerated rate that Logging and Exporting is going there gonna be piss all left in a few short years..that is my biggest worry...there is gonna be a long period of no Logs for nobody....the Feds and Provincial should be getting together and working on the big picture here and not the short term profit of exporting which sure as hell don't benefit the people that live here and always thought that the Forests belonged to Canadians.....

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Post by The Invisible Man on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:31 am

booboo wrote:hmmmm...sure Log Export from private lands is a Federal matter...I found that out a few years back when I was on CBC Radio arguing with the Prez of the Private Landowners Association of Canada about Log Export....It is a huge matter and cannot be forgotten about...the waste that is left behind to salvage is very minor in comparison to the current volume being exported..It is the biggest thing screwing the Forest Economy....at the accelerated rate that Logging and Exporting is going there gonna be piss all left in a few short years..that is my biggest worry...there is gonna be a long period of no Logs for nobody....the Feds and Provincial should be getting together and working on the big picture here and not the short term profit of exporting which sure as hell don't benefit the people that live here and always thought that the Forests belonged to Canadians.....

I feel like the raw log export issue is out of our hands. I am not saying to be silent on the matter but to open ourselves up to other ideas that would help create a new forest economy. When I go out in the woods I see incredible waste. Often when a forest company logs an area lots of wood fibre is left on the ground to rot or burn. Why can't it be utilized? The government should change legislation to allow small business and entrepreneurs an opportunity to utilize that fibre for value-added products.
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Post by chrisale on Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:57 am

The Invisible Man wrote:
booboo wrote:hmmmm...sure Log Export from private lands is a Federal matter...I found that out a few years back when I was on CBC Radio arguing with the Prez of the Private Landowners Association of Canada about Log Export....It is a huge matter and cannot be forgotten about...the waste that is left behind to salvage is very minor in comparison to the current volume being exported..It is the biggest thing screwing the Forest Economy....at the accelerated rate that Logging and Exporting is going there gonna be piss all left in a few short years..that is my biggest worry...there is gonna be a long period of no Logs for nobody....the Feds and Provincial should be getting together and working on the big picture here and not the short term profit of exporting which sure as hell don't benefit the people that live here and always thought that the Forests belonged to Canadians.....

I feel like the raw log export issue is out of our hands. I am not saying to be silent on the matter but to open ourselves up to other ideas that would help create a new forest economy. When I go out in the woods I see incredible waste. Often when a forest company logs an area lots of wood fibre is left on the ground to rot or burn. Why can't it be utilized? The government should change legislation to allow small business and entrepreneurs an opportunity to utilize that fibre for value-added products.

One could have said the same for water in Beaver Creek? Smile. But someone didn't. I totally agree with booboo. We are letting our only real ticket to long term jobs get decimated. There are simply too many trees being cut right now and soon enough the cycle will catch up to us and there will be no mature trees left, with huge layoffs the result.

Personally I think its time for the government to claw back the private timberlands and make them Crown once again. Especially if the quid-pro-quo in the form of the E&N is not kept running, then the basis of the original deal is void.

Barring that, appertenancy has to be returned. That should be a key demand of the next NDP Government. (god knows nothing will happen to benefit local jobs under Crusty!)

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Post by The Invisible Man on Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:35 pm

Booboo and you are right. I recall driving down to Youbou with Booboo when this issue first arose...I believe the voyage occurred in 1999? It really is a shame that more people didn't jump in back then. How can we show the federal government that we mean business? So far, the outcry appears to have fallen on deaf ears.
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Post by Jeckle on Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:51 pm

The Invisible Man wrote: How can we show the federal government that we mean business? So far, the outcry appears to have fallen on deaf ears.

Stop a few barges.
Don't let them in...don't let them out...whatever.
It's gotta be big.

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Post by Possum on Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:44 pm

Someone could chain themselves to an anchor. Remember your green leaders used to chain themselves to the front of logging trucks.

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